Camino Blog – Packing list

Some practical things for those thinking of doing the trip. (Updated)

We packed pretty carefully for this trip and as it happens I have only not used 2 items. Here is what we have

35 Litre, framed backpack

Walking poles

Daily wear

  • Cap – might buy a wide brim hat later

  • Sunglasses

  • Merino wool short sleeved shirt

  • Merino wool underwear

  • Khule shorts – these have been great with lots of pockets. Wearing shorts is a bit unusual. Most wear trousers. The correlation between shorts and being a Kiwi are pretty high

  • Merino wool socks – longer length to provide surface area to wick moisture. Slightly padded.

  • Salomon trail runners – these have been fine so far but quite a few are wearing boots. UPDATE – I think I may switch shoes to some with a touch more padding in the sole. The track is quite rocky and my feet are getting a bit bruised. However, given that my feet are nightmare wide I might still have the best option and will have to live with them. Also, run the risk of blisters if I try new shoes. 

  • Phone

  • Passports/money etc

  • Swiss Army knife

On and off quite a bit

  • Light weight Icebreaker jersey with collar

  • Raincoat – tend to strap to outside of the pack. Quite a few have ponchos but they do tend to make you look like Salty the Singing Songbook.

  • Merino wool hoody – when particularly cold so mostly for when done for the day.

  • Merino wool/windstopper gloves. – usually kept in jacket.

  • Merino wool buff – good scarf.

In Pack

I am using a number of separate, cheap, dry bags. Deb’s idea and a good one. Mostly used for their dividing properties rather than waterproof features.

  • Bag 1

    • Two cheap/light sleeping bags. 600g each. You don’t need thick ones as you are in a room at night.  I am carrying Deb’s for space reasons

  • Bag 2 – Extra clothes

    • Light hiking trousers

    • Merino wool short sleeved shirt

    • Merino wool underwear

    • Merino wool singlet

    • 3x Merino wool socks. Could drop a pair or even two

    • Running, neoprene shorts. Extra underwear or for swimming

  • Bag 3 – Shoe + washing bag

    • Allbirds Merion shoes – These have ended up being really good. Light, basically slippers you can walk around in them, and an extra pair of socks if cold. Because they are wool you don’t strictly need socks and you can put them in the wash. Highly recommend.

  • Bag 4 – Things to keep handy at night

    • Headlamp

    • Airplugs

    • Pillowcase

  • Bag 5 – Accessories

    • Charging cables

    • Double USB/euro plug. Thanks A&M for this. Really useful

    • Bluetooth keyboard

  • Bag 6 – basic (it’s good to be a guy) toiletries

    • Toothbrush

    • Small toothpaste

    • Deodorant

    • Shaver

    • Small soap

    • Sunscreen

  • Other stuff

  • 2 x micro towels. (I carry Deb’s)

  • Scrubber bag – brought because it was recommended to do washing. However, have mainly just paid to use the machines

  • Wet wipes – for emergencies

  • A number of snap lock plastic bags.

  • 2 x plastic bottles for water- 500ml

  • Plastic knife/fork/spoon combo. Basically useless


And that is about it. All up 8kg excl water. This is considerably less than some of the loads I have seen.

Deb’s is also carrying some limited first aid. There are shops along the way to cover this so you don’t need much. Main thing is carry Compede, a blister protection, but you can buy along the way.

Things I might consider

  • Another pair of trousers

  • Jandals – for shower and getting around

Camino Blog – Day 7

Estelle-lizarra to Los Arcos

Welcome to this Camino Blog. If you are new it might be best to start with the introduction. Otherwise, carry on.

Location: Los Arcos​

Distance: 21.5km – 135.1km total

Weather: Slight overcast, basically fine. Not so great for photos but good for walking.

Terrain: Mostly​ gentle farm road, probably the easiest day so far really. Another pretty day walking through farms.

Physical condition: Ok, pretty good actually.Still no blisters

Other: So for the record, walking pace is averaging about 4km/h including breaks. Staying in a fairly full albergue tonight so sleep might be a problem. But Crystals back! We left her at the 8km mark expecting that to be it, but then she turned up at the hostel. Decided that she was feeling okay and the town she was in was deserted so a bit dull.


SB 7 – The antidote was costly


Not sure how to be eloquent about this one. At the very least I want to say that Grace didn’t come cheap. I am aware that there is numerous views on how redemption happened and what was required. To be honest, the details are not that interesting to me.


I have included a picture from earlier in the trip from Jerusalem. This is the official location of the Jesus’ tomb. Highly unlikely it is the actual location, and frankly it did nothing for me. But this did not come cheap.


As we walk the Way there are currently quite a lot of poppies in bloom. I have taken to wearing one, although they are a bit fragile so I go through a few a day. Obviously, these are a specific NZ cultural reference to sacrifice in war. It feels appropriate today.


Pictures

Poppies

Official tomb of Jesus

Along the way

Camino Blog – Day 6

Puente la Reina to Estelle-lizarra

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Location: Estelle-lizarra

Distance: 22km – 113.6km total (sorry adding a bit off)

Weather: Overcast, basically fine. Not so great for photos but good for walking.

Terrain: Mostly gentle path with some bits of road.

Physical condition: Ok, pretty good actually. Today started with a sore hip but cleared up pretty fast. Sore feet but still no blisters

Other: Nothing overly dramatic today. Much like yesterday but weather not as good. Crystal has decided to have a short day tomorrow as she has more days and can take the pace a lot slower. Her body is saying have a break so it is goodbye. Sad. Seems to be a feature of the Way that people come and go from your life. Basically the Way is life compressed.

SB 6: Creation was infected, but the antidote has been administered.

So I have ripped this off C S Lewis. His way of putting it was that the major battle has been won and that all we are seeing is final mop up fighting. However it works, Jesus’ coming and dying is the key event, the turning point. The victory has been won.

For myself, and others, although this is probably accurate, it tends to trivialise life’s trials a bit much. I wonder if this SB is another way of looking at it. The world was sick, the antidote has been given so it will get better, but while that happens it can still feel awful.

Here goes a question to make yourself appreciated at parties – are people basically good with a bit of bad, for basically bad with a bit of good? Going a step further, after the fall are…?.I have heard arguments both ways but for me, more and more, I find myself in the latter camp.

I think that underneath our veneer of respectability we are nasty pieces of work. True, some are really bad but I think it is a matter of degree. I think it was Victor Frankle who, while giving evidence at the Nuremberg trials, realised that we all have the potential given the right (or wrong) conditions to be the ones in the dock.

In particular, I think material wealth and societal institutions can hide our true natures. Take those away and watch the results. Think Syria. Watch what people do when a state collapses. Watch what happens when people’s wealth is threatened. Think back to after the earthquakes in Christchurch and the way large sections of society viewed their insurance and what they tried to claim. Think that lawyers say that you don’t really know someone until they are a beneficiary of a Will. We may look nice but strip things away and watch the results.

I also used to shake my head when I heard about the behaviour of christians in churches. They should be better. Now I think, of course they behave badly. In fact you should expect more bad behaviour because of all people christians know they need saving.

But the antidote has been given….

Today I have found myself thinking a bit more about SB 5. On the way out of town we passed the sewage treatment plant.

Question for 10 – will we need a crap in heaven? We like to keep things like sewage treatment plants out of mind and sight while we focus on the pretty things, but boy would we miss them if they were not there. Three cheers for engineers I say.

Actually, It is one of my concerns about this walk. I am concerned that it is a bit fake and separated from what needs to happen for life to continue. As walkers we are basically bludging off everyone else while trying to have a “spiritual” experience. However, given how sore my feet are I am way more into the physical part of it at the moment! Integrating both is a big wish for me.

Pictures

Sewage treatment plant

Clearly not everything is sweetness and light in Spain

Bye bye Crystal

Camino Blog – Day 5

Pamplona to Puente la Reina

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Location: Puente la Reina​

Distance: 23km – 91km total + a couple of kms from our hostel back to the trail.

Weather: Lovely day. Started a big foggy but basically perfect.

Terrain: Mostly​ gentle path with some bits of road. Walk through town out off Pamplona. Over a reasonable hill.

Physical condition: Ok, but a bit tired. Feet a bit sore but blisters are still yet to arrive.

Other: So I might have to come back to Pamplona. Really liked the feel, although it was a bit empty due to the holiday. It has a bull fighting stadium for goodness sake! Decided to enter the running of the bulls …..just joking,  it was not on. Ended up walking through the city this morning as we left the trail a bit early yesterday to get to the hostel. Very pretty day today walking though fields and past and through small towns. Settling into a routine of having a nice, big lunch after the walk with a bottle of wine. Boy these Spanish like their long, large lunch. All good.

Blog Stuff:  So I am a bit new to the blog thing. A few have commented on things (thanks for that) and I am not sure if you wanted things private or not. From now on, unless you put private at the top I will assume it is intended to be public.


SB 5: God became human (so we have a good idea of what that looks like)


So theoretically this could be under SB 3 but I think it it deserves its own.


Not only is this a SB because it is central to Christian belief, but also because the incarnation gives us the best image that we have of what God is like. If you want to know what God is like, look at Jesus.


On a similar note, I am highly aware that I have fallen into the trap of being a bit spiritual about spirituality, and have disregard the physical. Apparently, this is a Greek influence rather than a Jewish view.


However, here we have our God taking on human form. Presumably this was not done with distaste so neither should we view it this way. The physical is good and we should see it as such.


Pictures

Entering Pamplona gate

Street in Pamplona – add your own bulls

On the way

Camino Blog – Day 4

Larrasoana to Pamplona

Welcome to this Camino Blog. If you are new it might be best to start with the introduction. Otherwise, carry on.

Location: Pamplona​

Distance: 16km – 68km total + a 10km taxi trip back to where we left off at Larrason

Weather: overcast, warm wind and a bit of rain near the end

Terrain: Mostly​ gentle path with some bits of road. Walk through town into Pamplona

Physical condition: Ok. Still early days

Other: So decided to go back to where we left off yesterday which was a good call as it didn’t feel right skipping things. However, presumably will need to build flexibility into this trip.  Staying in the Hemingway Hostel (apparently he stayed here) which we booked yesterday as things are pretty much booked up everywhere in Pamplona for the May Day holiday. Nice lunch at the restaurant that Hemingway liked to go. V Nice, big, and unbelievably good value. Spain seems quite inexpensive generally, presumably still a hangover from financial crisis. Said goodbye to Lea who goes back home tonight. She has been a fun traveling companion.

General Blog Stuff: So the blog is out there now. Thanks for those that have contacted. I don’t have everyone’s details so if you think anyone else might be interested feel free to give them the link. By the way, I had to set up in my phone so the site is a bit rough at the moment. Also, if there is anything else you want me to cover let me know. 


SB 4 – God is Love

I guess that we are now well into the benevolent God concept now. My knowledge of other faiths is quite incomplete so I am not sure now unique this is to Christian belief. However, it is definitely central to it.


Put another way – love is who God is. The character is God is love.


As a SB it is important to the Christian faith. It is also important as a SB because it can seem untrue a lot of the time.  If God is a loving God why did……? Fill in the gap with whatever grief that fills your mind.


Once again, I am not the best one to mount a defense about why things are as they are. Others will do a better job than I ever could and they may convince you. In my experience, arguments ultimately do not help most. Unfortunately this SB is a rock that has to be clinged to while the waves and wind batter.


On the other hand if it is true……


Pics

Bridge into Pamplona

Square in Pamplona

Hemingway’s favorite and farewell Lea

Camino Blog – Day 3

Roncesvalles to Larrasoana

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Location: Huarte​

Distance: 27.2km – 52km total + a 10km taxi trip to find somewhere to sleep.

Weather: fine, -2 degree start but warmed up eventually.

Terrain: Mostly​ gentle path with some bits of road

Physical condition: Ok. But, long day. Could not find a bed where we are supposed to end so currently we have taken a taxi to another town called Huarte

Other: so apparently this weekend is a bank holiday which is adding to the general busyness. This might be problematic over the next few days. We MAY end up skipping a bit of the walk. Will decide tomorrow if we take a taxi back to where we got the Taxi today. In the meantime we are in a basically unused albergue and there are currently only 4 of us in the whole place which could sleep around 60! No sign of heating but the shower is hot and we are going to go to a nice dinner in compensation


SB 3 – God is Trinity

To be honest I have this as a SB because this is a big deal in every creed I know off.  For me it doesn’t really ring yet.


However, it clearly does for lots of Christian authors. I have read books which describe the trinitarian relationship in glowing terms so presumably it will gain in importance at some point.


For me personally, I was converted by the majesty of the father. Others I know have a close collection with Jesus, and the Holy spirit is a big deal for others. My guess is that eventually this will balance out for me in time.


In the meantime I hold this SB because I think it is important rather than seeing it as important now. Essentially, I hold this belief in the light of my unbelief which is one of the functions of sacraments generally.


On a similar note, we went to the evening mass at the monastery last night. It was nice, although all in Spanish so a bit hard to follow. However, it ended for us on a bit of a bum note when the only bit in English was when we were told we could take Communion with them, bit only if we were Catholic. Assuming nothing was lost in translation, this was quite disappointing. In light of what I am doing here, and my faith tradition, this sort of exclusion felt wrong. I appreciate that Catholics have a different view of transubstantiation than I so this attitude is explainable. However, given I think sacraments have a role in holding on to something in periods of doubt, and all these pilgrims from all different backgrounds, but all receptive to the message of Communion,  were there, it felt like missed moment.


Busy Track


Empty Albergue

Camino Blog – Day 2

Orisson to Roncesvalles

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Location: Roncesvalles​. Staying in a monestry with a large alburgue (pilgrim dorm) for 180 people.

Distance: 17km – 25km total

Weather: fine, snow on ground, cold cold

Terrain: steep road and path, over a pass

Physical Condition: All good, early days.

Other: Who would have thought that we would walk in snow! Small miracle, found a set of gloves in my raincoat that I left there by accident. Much more comfy than socks which I was using.


SB 2 – God and the story are way bigger than you

If you think there can be a God, what is that God like? This SB is to challenge the attitude that although you think that God can exist you interact with that God under your terms. Alas, “God is God not man”. This is not a marriage of equals. In the Christian context we are dealing with an entity that creates everything. This is magnificence and power beyond what we can imagine. Even Moses was blinded by seeing only the back of God.


I also think that we have to live with the idea that we are not the center of the universe. There is a bigger story going on in which we play a part, but only a minor part.


You may also have noted that at this point nothing has been said about the character of God. In our Christian context we leap to the “God is nice” paradigm very quickly. But what if God is not nice? Tough luck, God is still God and depending on it’s nature you might not have any choice about anything. We of course hope that we are dealing with a benevolent entity, but we have no say if that will actually be the case.


God is God, not man


Snow on the pass

Camino Blog – Day 1

St John Pied de Port to Orisson

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Location: Orisson

Distance: 8km

Weather: cloudy, fine, cool

Terrain: steep road, 800m elevation

Physical condition: all good, early days. But drinking beer with Yans the German (fill in the gaps) and getting grumpy looks from Deborah.

Other: Fun communal dinner, more grumpy looks from Debs for drinking too much red wine and having robust conversations with Rob and Dianne from American and Crystal and Leia (friends) from Holland. Met people from chch, incl Dennis Perry who was involved with SWBC and KRT in the early days. What are the chances!  Discussions about charity stuff. Oh and it snowed a bit tonight! Slightly concerning given we didn’t​ pack for that.


SB 1 : There is a God

I don’t think most creeds start with this, presumably because a belief in God was virtually a given when they were drafted. At least within NZ this is no longer the case, hence why it is a “counter cultural belief”.


In fact everything religious pretty much hinges on this. In general they require a belief that there is the possibility that there is something beyond what I can see and feel and test via scientific methods and the like. Being “religious” means it is necessary to hold this belief in contrast to a whole worldview that can be based on not believing that a God is possible.


And you can hold the negative view, in fact it can be an easier option. Give or take a bit you can build, and hold to, a reasonably sound ethical framework without the belief in God. If you choose this option please stop reading this blog series as the next 11 SB’d will not make much sense. All that follows rests on this assumption.


For those that need persuading, alas I am not the person. There are others that will be able to provide you really well argued rationale which may convince you that a God could exist. I have neither the ability or inclination to match them. However, the reasons for belief are out there.

No matter how well they are argued, I find that still, eventually, you are required to decide one way or the other.


You can decide no, in which case I encourage you to live your life as best you can in that view. None of this series should influence or inform how you do that because they all these SB’s rest on something you have chosen not to believe.


Alternatively, you can choose yes, there is room for the existence of God in this world. This opens up other paths and has implications that ripple through your life. 

Images – this might be a problem. All my phone images are huge and are not uploading very quickly. We will see

Orisson

Snow!

Yans – sort or like Joost from “The Way”

Camino Blog – Introduction

If interested in series, read this first

Along with Deborah, I am about to the start the Camino way, a very old pilgrim route  across the top of Spain finishing in Santiago de Compostela.  It is about 800km long and will take us about 35 days including a couple of rest days. Along the way we will be staying in hostels and sharing the route with around 500 others, if the historical numbers are to be believed.

As it is quite a journey a number of people have asked if I am going to blog while doing it. There is also a few who have asked what spiritual things I am planning to do and if I am planning to write about that as well.


In general I am reluctant to do this as I have found myself being very careful about what I write that is public.


Part of this is a Facebook backlash. Not only do I find that people are incredibly indiscreet on public forums, they are also far less restrained in what they say, and the opinions they adhere to, than they would be if they are talking to a real person.

I don’t want to be like that. When I write  I prefer a slower method that takes time to go over the pros and cons of particular perspectives and has the chance for them to be moderated by the faces of others.


I am also conscious that I might change my mind. When I think back on all the opinions that I used to hold I shudder a bit at how stupid I have been. Chances are I will look back at myself in a few years time and think the same.


But that is called growing up I guess.


However, when things are written down in public it is almost like you are placing your soul on stone tablets. Of course, in its extreme, this attitude would lead to nothing being written all, which would also be a bit silly.


However, I believe care is needed.


To illustrate this, but in no way thinking this would apply to myself, I have been struck by the level of scrutiny given to the writings of people like the previous presidents of the USA. Eventually, everything from their whole life is under the microscope. Although this probably doesn’t apply to Trump, what level of care was taken in what they wrote, published, and spoke in public on the off chance that they might try and get elected? It seems that they would have to be very deliberate, careful, and hopefully thoughtful, from a very early age.


On a similar note, while doing a course at university, I argued that the requirement to participate on online, written, public forums was unethical, or at least unhelpful. People think all sorts of nonsense at university and being able to freely work out things with others in open discussion is an important way of developing your identity and view. However, if they are written and public then views you held at a very tender age, or were perhaps taking to flesh out a discussion, now run the risk of defining you forever.


On the other hand, another side of me wants my viewpoint known and discussed and to live with the consequences. If that is to happen I will have to take the risk at some point. Apparently, a reluctance to do this is actually a weakness of my personality type and I need to grow a pair….

For those of you who are planning to read this I would hope that you do so with all the above in mind.


So what am I planning to do here?


Firstly, while I will include experiences of the actual walk, this is not the primary purpose of this blog. This time on the walk is a great chance to flesh out some things I have been thinking about in more detail, and thoughts are very important to me. This is my bias. When I read people’s biographies I am really not that interested in the details of their life. What I am interested in is what they think about topics and issues as this will influence what they do in the future. Information on the details of life simply inform these.  For example, what do you think about issues relating to justice? I am extremely interested in that and how you came to think what you do. Naturally, your life story is vitally important to understanding that so the details and stories have purpose and a framework.  


What is that I want to think about? Since this is a pilgrimage I am planning to blog about “pilgrim” type things. Specifically, I intend while walking to reflect and blog about what I call my “sacramental beliefs”.  I have been developing them over the last year or so and it is time for them to get a work out and be tested in a more public forum. So why not here?


The genesis of these beliefs came from reflecting on a specific spiritual challenge I, and many members of my church, have and which I suspect it is a reasonably generic issue for people. I once suggested that Ilam Baptist could handle a sermon on Grace pretty much every week. To illustrate why, during a sermon I once got people to raise their hands if they thought that people would love them more if they got better grades. You can guess the result.


I believe Grace is one of the ultimate counter cultural things about being a Christian. We adhere to the idea that there is nothing we can do to redeem ourselves, we have simply been redeemed! As Brennan Manning put it, “you don’t be good so you can be loved, you are loved so that you can be good”. And yet every other day of the week and, let’s be honest, most of Sunday as well, we are told the opposite. We are absolutely bombarded by the idea that we won’t be accepted unless we do certain things and achieve certain standards. Theoretically, Sunday is a day when we declare that another truth exists, that as Christians we believe in something completely different to “the world”. It is a challenge to hold on to this, and we continually need to remind ourselves, as everyday we are encouraged to forget.


This got me wondering what other counter cultural beliefs I should declare, deliberately align myself with, and remind myself of in a regular way? I call them sacramental beliefs (SB’s) because I think ultimately that is what we do with the actual sacraments, like communion. By doing this act regularly we constantly remind ourselves that we think something quite different to everyone else and the physical act helps reinforce this.


More accurately, what I am doing is developing a creed. However, I prefer the discreet nature of “sacrament” in that each can be reflected on individually as well as taken as a whole.


Currently, I have 12 SBs. This is convenient as over the course of the walk I should pretty much be able to give each a day, three times over the course of the walk. Hopefully, by the end of it I will have a good idea if they are worthwhile. I may be able to cull or add to them as I go along.


Although I have no expectations here, with this being public some may want to respond. If you want to please do. Your own thoughts will help me refine mine. I am not sure if I will have the time or ability to respond but presumably you can respond to each other 😀.


One request, can you keep comments on each day relevant to specific belief of the day. Knowing some of you l can almost feel the desire to put your own list down. This is okay but I will try and create a specific page for this. All the input will help inform things so bring it on.


Finally, please note that a. I am typing on a phone, b. Every post is really a draft c. Deborah is my only live face for me to moderate ideas on (poor her) and d. I can’t spell and grammar is a mystery to me. Hence, all these posts are a work in process.


Ultimately, these posts reflect the act of pilgrimage, in that the process is as important as the outcome.